Oct. 2nd, 2006 @ 05:27 am Inflammenta
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A few notes on discussion and disputation in online fora:

  • If you find yourself responding to a multi-paragraph section with a single line ... you've lost. Concede the field gracefully and conserve what egoboo you've got left for a later engagement.
  • If you find yourself doing a point-by-point Fisking of someone else's piece, make sure you're right, but moreover make sure you look right.
  • While the guy with the most words isn't necessarily right, that's the way the audience will lean.
  • If you complain about the words your opponent is using, you'll prove he's got the better ones, and you lose.
    • Corollary: Arguing semantics is a fool's game.
    • Second Corollary: If you're going to argue semantics, be right.
    • Third Corollary: If you're going to argue semantics and you're not right, be good at it.
    • Fourth Corollary: A spelling flame will automatically contain one misspelling. Plus, you lose.
  • Emotion is the enemy, but passion sways an audience. It's a hard line to walk, but the key is to keep your arguments passionate and lure your enemy into emotion.
  • Remember that whatever argument you engage with paints you in the same muck. Choose your engagements carefully. There are many times a casual, short, simple reference with an implied shrug is a far better weapon than a Fisking.
  • A clever turn of phrase is better than the truth.
  • Once your enemy makes a misstep, you don't have to do anything. Doing nothing draws attention to their mistake, doing something makes it yours.
    • Corollary: The wise man keeps his mouth shut and is thought a fool. The idiot opens his mouth and removes all doubt. As true today as it ever was.
  • The single best winning move is not to care.
  • If your enemy is of the opposite sex, you can just assume you've lost up front. It's faster and puts you in the right mindset.
  • If, by mistake, you actually do care, your only hope is to produce more substance than your enemy. Run them out of substance and they'll retreat to one of the above failure modes. Then you win.
  • Winning requires no announcement. You decide when you win. The audience decides when you lose.
  • When in doubt, say something useful and practical.
  • The audience doesn't care, either.

Man, a lifetime of dealing with people online, and the core of it can be summed up in a page of bullet points.

The key issues are all about engagement. Whenever possible, pick the field. Whenever necessary, pick the weapon. Joshua was right, the only winning move is not to play, 99.9965% of the time. If you're going to play, know what you're doing and why. Before you engage, know where you'll disengage.

Blogs have actually made things a lot more reasonable in many ways. I don't have to allow comments on my postings. If I choose not to respond to commenters, it's seen as my prerogative, not an abdication of the position. In many ways, blog-mediated discourse is much more civil.

Just stay out of communities and fora and you'll be fine.

This has been a Public Service Announcement.

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From:[info]wtimmins
Date: October 2nd, 2006 04:05 pm (UTC)
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You are utterly wrong. I win.


(wink)

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From:[info]zamiel
Date: October 2nd, 2006 08:28 pm (UTC)
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That was one like. The audience mocks you. :P
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From:[info]zamiel
Date: October 2nd, 2006 08:28 pm (UTC)
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"Line!" See? Guaranteed spelling or grammar error.
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From:[info]uhlrik
Date: October 2nd, 2006 04:06 pm (UTC)
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Is it safe to say that this was prompted by the discussion with a certain someone over in the roleplayers comm?
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From:[info]zamiel
Date: October 2nd, 2006 08:29 pm (UTC)
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There may have been some influence there, as well as seeing some blog posts by other folks I know.

Cynicism can only build up for so long.
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From:[info]uhlrik
Date: October 2nd, 2006 09:09 pm (UTC)
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Eventually, if allowed to build up, it prompts genocide. Not as if that's a bad thing.
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From:[info]zamiel
Date: October 2nd, 2006 09:46 pm (UTC)
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I could use a little genocide. Think I could become an African Dictator? No one seems to care if they wipe out huge swaths of people.
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From:[info]uhlrik
Date: October 2nd, 2006 10:28 pm (UTC)
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If the clowns they've had down there can manage, you'd have no problem whatsoever.
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From:[info]foomf
Date: October 3rd, 2006 12:20 am (UTC)
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If you can summarize tactics for contentious public communication on one page, and declare (or perhaps extract and extrapolate) the 'win' conditions, does that actually mean that it's a game that can be won?

(or to put it another way, this doesn't just apply to the net/web, and if you look at the published letters of the founding fathers, it makes early Usenet look like a peace-n-love picnic.)
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From:[info]zamiel
Date: October 3rd, 2006 12:27 am (UTC)
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Life is a game that can be won.

If by game, you mean war, and if by won, you mean conquered.
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From:[info]foomf
Date: October 3rd, 2006 12:36 am (UTC)
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(cue Bugs Bunny voice) What an INteresting way of looking at things!
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From:[info]wtimmins
Date: October 3rd, 2006 02:39 pm (UTC)
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Life is a game.

Cheat.